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		<title>Comment on a bit of everything by sam k</title>
		<link>http://lindleanne.wordpress.com/2008/05/20/a-bit-of-everything/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>sam k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello.
I&#039;m a second year pol sci student at  of t.
I&#039;m not sure if your still involved with your project, but i would love to help. iv been interested in starting a collective/space similar to who&#039;s emma but thats for another time. i could be a camera man but i would really like to help you meet these people and see what they would think about a who&#039;s Emma revival. 
anyway much respect for doing this by the way. Toronto needs more eyes on its real culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello.<br />
I&#8217;m a second year pol sci student at  of t.<br />
I&#8217;m not sure if your still involved with your project, but i would love to help. iv been interested in starting a collective/space similar to who&#8217;s emma but thats for another time. i could be a camera man but i would really like to help you meet these people and see what they would think about a who&#8217;s Emma revival.<br />
anyway much respect for doing this by the way. Toronto needs more eyes on its real culture.</p>
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		<title>Comment on new concepts and new media &#8211; but not enough time by suetnuct</title>
		<link>http://lindleanne.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/new-concepts-and-new-media-but-not-enough-time/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>suetnuct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice!!</description>
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		<title>Comment on new concepts and new media &#8211; but not enough time by i ME wed evaluation &#171; sadia mir</title>
		<link>http://lindleanne.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/new-concepts-and-new-media-but-not-enough-time/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>i ME wed evaluation &#171; sadia mir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] made a good point in her post - did we really learn these technologies enough to incorporate them into our practice? My response [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] made a good point in her post &#8211; did we really learn these technologies enough to incorporate them into our practice? My response [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Media Project: avatars and the representation of identity by new concepts and new media - but not enough time &#171; lindleanne&#8217;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://lindleanne.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/new-media-project-avatars-and-the-representation-of-identity/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>new concepts and new media - but not enough time &#171; lindleanne&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 00:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A link to your original idea 2) A short paragraph explaining how the outcome differs from or correspond to your [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on To &#8220;complexify&#8221; virtual art practices by elainebrodie</title>
		<link>http://lindleanne.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/to-complexify-virtual-art-practices/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>elainebrodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 05:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I very much enjoyed the Bailey video. It&#039;s hilarious, though I must confess that at first I thought it was serious, since I&#039;ve never seen him before. Strange that he seems so familiar though, or maybe it&#039;s the composite &quot;period&quot; genres he employs that seem so familiar.

I actually really enjoyed the Penny article too. I found his emphasis on embodiment quite refreshing after the number of people that seem to swoon over new robotics and programming innovations. The fact that he acknowledged the supremacy of a cockroach over a computer in performing an embodied task won me over, as many other computing advocates would never make this kind of point. 

However, inspired by what seemed his fresh take, I went to his web site (http://ace.uci.edu/penny/index.html) to see some of his work, and for the most part found it much less interesting than the article lead me to believe it would be. I guess I find that a lot of New Media work is more interesting in its concepts than in its actualization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I very much enjoyed the Bailey video. It&#8217;s hilarious, though I must confess that at first I thought it was serious, since I&#8217;ve never seen him before. Strange that he seems so familiar though, or maybe it&#8217;s the composite &#8220;period&#8221; genres he employs that seem so familiar.</p>
<p>I actually really enjoyed the Penny article too. I found his emphasis on embodiment quite refreshing after the number of people that seem to swoon over new robotics and programming innovations. The fact that he acknowledged the supremacy of a cockroach over a computer in performing an embodied task won me over, as many other computing advocates would never make this kind of point. </p>
<p>However, inspired by what seemed his fresh take, I went to his web site (<a href="http://ace.uci.edu/penny/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://ace.uci.edu/penny/index.html</a>) to see some of his work, and for the most part found it much less interesting than the article lead me to believe it would be. I guess I find that a lot of New Media work is more interesting in its concepts than in its actualization.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To &#8220;complexify&#8221; virtual art practices by lindleanne</title>
		<link>http://lindleanne.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/to-complexify-virtual-art-practices/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>lindleanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks very much for your comment Rob, I especially appreciated seeing that SOS video by Jeremy Bailey. And yes, my reference to Bailey&#039;s work is funny, I definitely intended the example to be strange and amusing. Of course Bailey&#039;s videos are, as you say, &quot;a complete piss-take&quot; - his use of camp and state-of-the-art technology marketing lingo combined with new wave/80s pop hits and clips of The Cosby show, which is so clearly dated, make his videos so over the top and ridiculous. I think these qualities make his work very contemporary and rather trendy (so much ironic 80s pop culture in &quot;art&quot; these days...).
I really don&#039;t believe Jeremy Bailey has created any programs... I bet he just uses Final Cut or After Effects... but I do think he is a very special video/performance artist and genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much for your comment Rob, I especially appreciated seeing that SOS video by Jeremy Bailey. And yes, my reference to Bailey&#8217;s work is funny, I definitely intended the example to be strange and amusing. Of course Bailey&#8217;s videos are, as you say, &#8220;a complete piss-take&#8221; &#8211; his use of camp and state-of-the-art technology marketing lingo combined with new wave/80s pop hits and clips of The Cosby show, which is so clearly dated, make his videos so over the top and ridiculous. I think these qualities make his work very contemporary and rather trendy (so much ironic 80s pop culture in &#8220;art&#8221; these days&#8230;).<br />
I really don&#8217;t believe Jeremy Bailey has created any programs&#8230; I bet he just uses Final Cut or After Effects&#8230; but I do think he is a very special video/performance artist and genius.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To &#8220;complexify&#8221; virtual art practices by robertlendrum</title>
		<link>http://lindleanne.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/to-complexify-virtual-art-practices/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>robertlendrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think using Bailey as an example of your point is kind of funny considering Jeremy&#039;s work can be considered a complete piss-take on new media art and its investment in interactivity while at the same time satirizing the language of &#039;ease of use&#039; and &#039;innovation&#039; that software developers use when launching their new products (see Jeremy&#039;s video SOS 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLcwu3cm7y0).

I agree, though, that performance strategies from the sixties and seventies are useful and heavily influential on a lot of new media artists looking to create interaction between people and computers. 

Essentially Bailey&#039;s video work has more in common with performance video from the seventies than it does with contemporary new media, but I believe, and I may be wrong, that Jeremy writes the programs that he uses in his videos. I&#039;m pretty sure he&#039;s performed some of this stuff live as well. The content of his work, however, takes aim at new media by constantly raising the hot-button questions of interactivity, embodiment, telepresence etc. It begs the question though, why satirize the use of these technologies and then actively participate in the art field that embraces them? Perhaps we can view Jeremy&#039;s work as the line in the sand between the gimicky and the innovative (is that the right word? I wanted to say &quot;real art&quot; but that is a ridiculously subjective term to use.). Only by using the gimicky in a self-deprecating fashion does Bailey demonstrate the limits of certain kinds of new media art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think using Bailey as an example of your point is kind of funny considering Jeremy&#8217;s work can be considered a complete piss-take on new media art and its investment in interactivity while at the same time satirizing the language of &#8216;ease of use&#8217; and &#8216;innovation&#8217; that software developers use when launching their new products (see Jeremy&#8217;s video SOS<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLcwu3cm7y0)" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLcwu3cm7y0)</a>.</p>
<p>I agree, though, that performance strategies from the sixties and seventies are useful and heavily influential on a lot of new media artists looking to create interaction between people and computers. </p>
<p>Essentially Bailey&#8217;s video work has more in common with performance video from the seventies than it does with contemporary new media, but I believe, and I may be wrong, that Jeremy writes the programs that he uses in his videos. I&#8217;m pretty sure he&#8217;s performed some of this stuff live as well. The content of his work, however, takes aim at new media by constantly raising the hot-button questions of interactivity, embodiment, telepresence etc. It begs the question though, why satirize the use of these technologies and then actively participate in the art field that embraces them? Perhaps we can view Jeremy&#8217;s work as the line in the sand between the gimicky and the innovative (is that the right word? I wanted to say &#8220;real art&#8221; but that is a ridiculously subjective term to use.). Only by using the gimicky in a self-deprecating fashion does Bailey demonstrate the limits of certain kinds of new media art.</p>
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		<title>Comment on action, and slogans on t-shirts by Gregory</title>
		<link>http://lindleanne.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/action-and-slogans-on-t-shirts/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From J.H.&#039;s blog:
After that touch of sobbing on the freeway, I went to see No Age play on a hilltop mansion that is usually just a porn set to play a Nike party (insert &quot;you know you&#039;re in LA when&quot; joke here). The soft brownblue valley smog haloed their sweaty faces; Dean was limping on a cane and Randy was sweating Guinness, they had just gotten off a plane from Ireland and came straight there to play. They headlined, so that meant by the time they went on, there were 100 people watching them and 450 shifffaced people waiting for port-o-lets. Everyone was too tan and thin and LA&#039;d out that people watching was nil. I was hoping for a mountain lion to creep up from the manicured brush and eat someones dunks right off their feet. On the way back down in a party shuttle through the canyon curves the girl sitting in front of me projectile vomited an entire afternoon&#039;s fruity mix drinks on the back of the driver. When I got out, I noticed she had barf in her long eyelashes. Though that&#039;s really what the VIP van is for, is it not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From J.H.&#8217;s blog:<br />
After that touch of sobbing on the freeway, I went to see No Age play on a hilltop mansion that is usually just a porn set to play a Nike party (insert &#8220;you know you&#8217;re in LA when&#8221; joke here). The soft brownblue valley smog haloed their sweaty faces; Dean was limping on a cane and Randy was sweating Guinness, they had just gotten off a plane from Ireland and came straight there to play. They headlined, so that meant by the time they went on, there were 100 people watching them and 450 shifffaced people waiting for port-o-lets. Everyone was too tan and thin and LA&#8217;d out that people watching was nil. I was hoping for a mountain lion to creep up from the manicured brush and eat someones dunks right off their feet. On the way back down in a party shuttle through the canyon curves the girl sitting in front of me projectile vomited an entire afternoon&#8217;s fruity mix drinks on the back of the driver. When I got out, I noticed she had barf in her long eyelashes. Though that&#8217;s really what the VIP van is for, is it not?</p>
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		<title>Comment on I like bands and their documentation: Part 1 by Gregory</title>
		<link>http://lindleanne.wordpress.com/2008/05/17/i-like-bands-and-their-documentation-part-1/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 13:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also see: Cynthia Connelly book on DC scene.
comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also see: Cynthia Connelly book on DC scene.<br />
comments.</p>
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		<title>Comment on action, and slogans on t-shirts by gruncima</title>
		<link>http://lindleanne.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/action-and-slogans-on-t-shirts/#comment-2</link>
		<dc:creator>gruncima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 05:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actions speak louder than t-shirt slogans.

Fashion aside, I find your interest in the &quot;actions speak louder than (name your popular &#039;non-action&#039; alternative)&quot; mantra fascinating.  What do you feel properly constitutes an &quot;action?&quot; 

Is writing/engaging in discourse/documenting an action? Are blogs a form of action? Do they supplant or supplement action?</description>
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<p>Fashion aside, I find your interest in the &#8220;actions speak louder than (name your popular &#8216;non-action&#8217; alternative)&#8221; mantra fascinating.  What do you feel properly constitutes an &#8220;action?&#8221; </p>
<p>Is writing/engaging in discourse/documenting an action? Are blogs a form of action? Do they supplant or supplement action?</p>
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